As a general principle owners should be able to expect to have access to BC records after paying a prescribed fee. However, recent rulings by Adjudicators indicate that it is not that simple. If a BC believes that certain records are subject to "legal privilege" then they have the right to refuse access to any owner who may be involved in either actual or threatened legal action against the BC or presumably anyone who claims to be affected by the records.
There are times when it might be prudent to withhold certain documents from an owner on the basis of legal privilege but anyone with an ounce of imagination should be able to see how this ruling could be abused.
It would be very easy for a Committee to deny access to records based on "legal privilege". The owner would then have to decide whether to lodge a dispute. If the records were needed urgently, the process of waiting for the dispute to be heard could prove costly for the owner.
An Adjudicator recently ruled that a dispute with QCAT constitutes legal action. Presumably any dispute that has been initiated or implied also comes under the banner of "legal privilege".
There are other considerations that could lead to abuse of this process. Who decides whether records are subject to legal privilege or not? What if the person who is actually seeking the records is the Chairman, Secretary or another Committee member?
There have been disputes between the BC and the BC Manager in the past. The BC Manager is the custodian of the records. What would happen if the BC decided that the BC Manager could not access records because of legal privilege?
I feel that all BC records should be available for access by owners irrespective of any implied or actual legal privilege.
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The opinions expressed in this blog are personal and not intended in to be advice in any way. I have spent many years participating on a number of different Body Corporate Committees.
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Tuesday, June 12, 2012
Tuesday, May 15, 2012
No Smoking on Balconies for Unit Owners - coming soon!
Proposed changes to NSW strata laws could result in legislation to ban unit owners from smoking on their balconies.
Smoking Ban on balconies for unit owners
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The opinions expressed in this blog are personal and not intended in to be advice in any way. I have spent many years participating on a number of different Body Corporate Committees.
Smoking Ban on balconies for unit owners
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The opinions expressed in this blog are personal and not intended in to be advice in any way. I have spent many years participating on a number of different Body Corporate Committees.
Saturday, May 5, 2012
Commisioner for Body Corporate & BCCM Act. Irrelevant to BC Communities?
The Commissioner for Body Corporate and Community Management Queensland and The BCCM Act are rapidly becoming irrelevant to Body Corporate Communities.
The reality is that many Bodies Corporate ignore the regulations often through lack of knowledge of the legislation but occasionally through indifference. When owners raise concerns they often find that the process of lodging disputes is too cumbersome and costly and in many cases they are forced to accept that their Body Corporate operates by its own rules.
The function of the Commissioner is largely to hear and adjudicate on disputes that are lodged. I have always found it strange that the only way that the legislation might be enforced if a dispute is lodged.
I know of Bodies Corporate who do not hold AGM's. I know of others who don't keep proper records and do not communicate with owners. However, the only way that a Body Corporate would ever be accountable would be if someone lodged a dispute. In many cases, the BC know that there is little possibility of a dispute even if they knowingly ignore the legislation.
The fact is that many owners are intimidated by the entire process and The Commissioner has done little to help make the process user friendly. I think it is fair to say that the process is designed to generally discourage owners from lodging disputes in the hope that they will sort out problems "in house".
In the recent adjudication of Dispute Number 0010-2012 Palm Springs Residences, the Adjudicator made two interpretations of the Act that only accentuate the fact that the Act is becoming irrelevant.
1. The Adjudicator, M.A.Schmidt stated: "as a general proposition, a body corporate may validly resolve to ratify past irregular conduct".
This comment sets an extraordinary precedent. Firstly there is no time limit specified by M.A.Schmidt so presumably, the comment which is part of the overall ruling allows a BC to come back and "ratify irregular conduct" any time after the event. The implications of how this could be manipulated and applied make a mockery of the Act.
M.A Schmidt goes on to say that there could be legal implications for the BC in doing this but they would be outside the jurisdiction of the Act and, once again, owners would find the process of taking legal action against a BC daunting.
2. The Adjudicator, M.A.Schmidt stated that the applicants did not "complain of any detriment suffered as a result of having received notification 7 days after when they thought they should have been notified". The implication is that if a Body Corporate does not comply with time limits in notification of meetings, etc anyone who lodges a dispute would have to show that they suffered a "detriment" or some form of hardship.
These "rulings" only continue to demonstrate why so many Body Corporate Communities ignore the Act. The likelihood of an owner lodging a dispute is small. If an owner does happen to decide that there is no alternative but to lodge a dispute the chances of having the application upheld are a lottery.
It is time that the BCCM Act and the Office of the Commissioner for Body Corporate and Community Management were completely overhauled by the Government.
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The opinions expressed in this blog are personal and not intended in to be advice in any way. I have spent many years participating on a number of different Body Corporate Committees.
The reality is that many Bodies Corporate ignore the regulations often through lack of knowledge of the legislation but occasionally through indifference. When owners raise concerns they often find that the process of lodging disputes is too cumbersome and costly and in many cases they are forced to accept that their Body Corporate operates by its own rules.
The function of the Commissioner is largely to hear and adjudicate on disputes that are lodged. I have always found it strange that the only way that the legislation might be enforced if a dispute is lodged.
I know of Bodies Corporate who do not hold AGM's. I know of others who don't keep proper records and do not communicate with owners. However, the only way that a Body Corporate would ever be accountable would be if someone lodged a dispute. In many cases, the BC know that there is little possibility of a dispute even if they knowingly ignore the legislation.
The fact is that many owners are intimidated by the entire process and The Commissioner has done little to help make the process user friendly. I think it is fair to say that the process is designed to generally discourage owners from lodging disputes in the hope that they will sort out problems "in house".
In the recent adjudication of Dispute Number 0010-2012 Palm Springs Residences, the Adjudicator made two interpretations of the Act that only accentuate the fact that the Act is becoming irrelevant.
1. The Adjudicator, M.A.Schmidt stated: "as a general proposition, a body corporate may validly resolve to ratify past irregular conduct".
This comment sets an extraordinary precedent. Firstly there is no time limit specified by M.A.Schmidt so presumably, the comment which is part of the overall ruling allows a BC to come back and "ratify irregular conduct" any time after the event. The implications of how this could be manipulated and applied make a mockery of the Act.
M.A Schmidt goes on to say that there could be legal implications for the BC in doing this but they would be outside the jurisdiction of the Act and, once again, owners would find the process of taking legal action against a BC daunting.
2. The Adjudicator, M.A.Schmidt stated that the applicants did not "complain of any detriment suffered as a result of having received notification 7 days after when they thought they should have been notified". The implication is that if a Body Corporate does not comply with time limits in notification of meetings, etc anyone who lodges a dispute would have to show that they suffered a "detriment" or some form of hardship.
These "rulings" only continue to demonstrate why so many Body Corporate Communities ignore the Act. The likelihood of an owner lodging a dispute is small. If an owner does happen to decide that there is no alternative but to lodge a dispute the chances of having the application upheld are a lottery.
It is time that the BCCM Act and the Office of the Commissioner for Body Corporate and Community Management were completely overhauled by the Government.
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The opinions expressed in this blog are personal and not intended in to be advice in any way. I have spent many years participating on a number of different Body Corporate Committees.
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Wednesday, February 10, 2010
Body Corporate "Specialists"
There are a number of solicitors who claim to be specialists in Body Corporate law. There are times when a Body Corporate has no option but to obtain a legal opinion, but you do need to be very careful about who you chose in providing the advice. There have been claims of overcharging, flawed legal advice, loss of important documents, etc and these are just the tip of the iceberg.
If you do need to use a solicitor you should ask as many questions as possible:
1. Ask your Body Corporate Manager if they have had experience with the solicitor and if they are able to provide any feedback. In recent years there has been an increase in the number of Body Corporates who have engaged solicitors and your Body Corporate Manager should be able to help you in making a decision as to who is best to use.
2. Ask the solicitor for references. If the solicitor claims to specialise in Body Corporate Law they should be able to give you contact points for previous clients so that you can get some feedback. If you want details of specific cases there is no reason why you should not ask the solictor to provide you with details of committee members at the time or the Body Corporate Manager who was involved.
3. Caretakers may be able to provide some feedback on their experiences with solicitors.
4. Speak to more than one solicitor before making a commitment.
5. Clarify as much as possible in regards to costs and terms and conditions with the solicitor prior to making a commitment.
When you do engage a solictor make sure that all committee members fully understand the costs agreement and ensure that all costs are fully authorised within the Commitee spending limit.
The term "Body Corporate Specialist" is not an official term with any specific qualification. It simply means that the solicitor concentrates on Body Corporate issues. The term does not necesarily mean that the solicitor has more expertise than any other solicitor.
It is always best to do as much homework as possible before entering into an agreement with a solicitor.
If you have already engaged a solicitor you can always consider getting a second opinion if needed and if you are not happy with the work that has been provided or the charges that have been made you should advise the solictor of this in writing and take further action if the BC sees fit.
Bear in mind that legal costs in relation to Body Corporate issues can be very costly and time consuming. It is generally best to try everything possible to resolve these issues through negotiation and mediation or through the Commissioner before getting involved in a costly legal battle.
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The opinions expressed in this blog are personal and not intended in to be advice in any way. I have spent many years participating on a number of different Body Corporate Committees. I am a dealer in Vintage Movie Memorabilia specialising in original movie posters and movie art. http://www.moviemem.com/I also present a radio programme on Jazz Radio 94.1fm Monday - Friday afternoons on the Gold Coast.
If you do need to use a solicitor you should ask as many questions as possible:
1. Ask your Body Corporate Manager if they have had experience with the solicitor and if they are able to provide any feedback. In recent years there has been an increase in the number of Body Corporates who have engaged solicitors and your Body Corporate Manager should be able to help you in making a decision as to who is best to use.
2. Ask the solicitor for references. If the solicitor claims to specialise in Body Corporate Law they should be able to give you contact points for previous clients so that you can get some feedback. If you want details of specific cases there is no reason why you should not ask the solictor to provide you with details of committee members at the time or the Body Corporate Manager who was involved.
3. Caretakers may be able to provide some feedback on their experiences with solicitors.
4. Speak to more than one solicitor before making a commitment.
5. Clarify as much as possible in regards to costs and terms and conditions with the solicitor prior to making a commitment.
When you do engage a solictor make sure that all committee members fully understand the costs agreement and ensure that all costs are fully authorised within the Commitee spending limit.
The term "Body Corporate Specialist" is not an official term with any specific qualification. It simply means that the solicitor concentrates on Body Corporate issues. The term does not necesarily mean that the solicitor has more expertise than any other solicitor.
It is always best to do as much homework as possible before entering into an agreement with a solicitor.
If you have already engaged a solicitor you can always consider getting a second opinion if needed and if you are not happy with the work that has been provided or the charges that have been made you should advise the solictor of this in writing and take further action if the BC sees fit.
Bear in mind that legal costs in relation to Body Corporate issues can be very costly and time consuming. It is generally best to try everything possible to resolve these issues through negotiation and mediation or through the Commissioner before getting involved in a costly legal battle.
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The opinions expressed in this blog are personal and not intended in to be advice in any way. I have spent many years participating on a number of different Body Corporate Committees. I am a dealer in Vintage Movie Memorabilia specialising in original movie posters and movie art. http://www.moviemem.com/I also present a radio programme on Jazz Radio 94.1fm Monday - Friday afternoons on the Gold Coast.
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